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Aug 19, '08 1:59pm #1
TOO[H]ECTIC
I been playing alot of 1s lately and these seem to be my main problems. 1st my Marine vs Zealot early game micro. i need serious help on this. idk how to micro my rines. ive asked for help in cristal but people just say "micro them". HOW do u micro them? do u send them behind rax to confuse lots? do u send a few rines in differenet directions to have lots follow? or what.

2nd. my apm. i know alot of people say apm doesnt mean anything, but in my case i think it does. my toss apm is like 120-130 and thats me giving it everything i have. idk what everyone is doing so much i watch reps of really good people and i dont see why there apm is so high, idk if there just moving alot of units or what,maybe i get confused alot and i dont keep building + pumping at the same time. any suggestions?

another quick question, when u select groups do u shift + click or just double left click?

A few weeks ago someone replied to one of my help threads and said they would help work with me on some stuff but i cant find the post, i belive it was Pro Chosen. IF ur still up to help send me a PM plz.

Edited by Too[H]ectic on Aug 19, '08 2:09pm about 107 days ago.
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Aug 19, '08 2:29pm #2
XAENEASX
separate your marines into groups have one group lead the zlots to your other marines, while they are shooting, then move that group away, and have your other group shoot. etc.

Your apm is fine. 120 is not that bad.


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Aug 19, '08 2:35pm #3
XB_ANNIHILATION
i double click units to get groups, only time i shift click is on zerg larva and mass zerg units at my base

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Aug 19, '08 5:52pm #4
WISH.SHOCK
ooo yea i work on my marine micro alot am trying to master it u can allways use the micro with bats n marines would help more.

Aug 19, '08 6:15pm #5
PEDO-BEAR
separate your marines into groups have one group lead the zlots to your other marines, while they are shooting, then move that group away, and have your other group shoot. etc.

Your apm is fine. 120 is not that bad.


that's the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Zealots are melee units, so they work best when surrounding in a group, which means if the marines split and then the toss player micros, your gonna have 2 small groups of marines vs 2 small groups of zealots, and the zealot are going to fucking destroy them.

Edited by Pedo-Bear on Aug 19, '08 6:28pm about 107 days ago.

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Aug 19, '08 6:30pm #7
PEDO-BEAR
If you split the rines, you wont get an effective micro. The units will waste time moving while the zealot micro will designate the attacking rines. Big waste don't you think? Best way to deal with rine vs lot micro is to keep them packed, then put the rine that's being attacked behind the rest. You wont lose a single unit.


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Aug 19, '08 6:31pm #8
XAENEASX
that's the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Zealots are melee units, so they work best when surrounding in a group, which means if the marines split and then the toss player micros, your gonna have 2 small groups of marines vs 2 small groups of zealots, and the zealot are going to fucking destroy them.


I read wrong ;\ I figured he meant during a c rush when there are very little zealots.


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Aug 19, '08 6:38pm #9
LETHA)L(
isnt it ctrl to select groups.. not shift??


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Aug 19, '08 7:10pm #10
P.BEAR
isnt it ctrl to select groups.. not shift??


yeah shift is to add to selection or deselect from selection

Aug 19, '08 7:12pm #11
TOO[H]ECTIC
ya my bad. i dont really know what the keys are anymore i just know where they are on the keyboard and what they do =P

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Aug 20, '08 8:59pm #12
IHEARTBOOBIES
Your sig just gave me a raging boner.

Aug 20, '08 9:12pm #13
PUPPY-H[F]S
ur apm is fine. That's what mine is at and i'd say i'm pretty good :P

1 group attack + 1 run is best marine micro. I shift select rarely. I use click and drag a lot. I am able to do this very fast and am confident in my ability to do so. Find something that works for u, but shift select and double clicking can give u units uve already selected or units that are too far away and u dont want to move.

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Aug 20, '08 10:47pm #14
JESSICA[NK]
Yeah I have troubles with the marine micro too =(


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Aug 20, '08 11:21pm #15
IHEARTBOOBIES
Lol bunching marines eh? Tell me how that works out with a toss that knows how to micro.

Aug 21, '08 11:54am #16
TOO[H]ECTIC
how do u micro marines ?

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Aug 23, '08 6:27pm #17
JEREMY[NK]
Just download some replays from good players.

Aug 24, '08 10:47am #18
TOO[H]ECTIC
Your sig just gave me a raging boner.
ya it gives me that problem too

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Aug 24, '08 10:56am #19
WISH.SKY
i used to suck at micro, just practice it alot.. u will eventually get it ~
oh and.. it's great to learn to push out of a c push if you got great macro you got the upper hand.



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Aug 24, '08 12:26pm #20
PUPPY-H[F]S
Lol bunching marines eh? Tell me how that works out with a toss that knows how to micro.

He asked for basic strats. I dont think he'll be starting out against top tier ppl

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