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Spartan[nK]
 February 27th, 2010 12:36pm #1Spartan[nK]
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Just reduce their starting armor from 2 to 1! S'all I ask.
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Dr.MayCo
 February 27th, 2010 12:40pm #2Dr.MayCo
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yes i guess you know better than blizzard on what to do to make a good game
Jacob[fc]
 February 27th, 2010 12:46pm #3Jacob[fc]
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Kris have you left them feed back yet? If you haven't just tell them that the roaches are a little op at the start.
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WinTer[nK]
 February 27th, 2010 1:00pm #4WinTer[nK]
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I watched some videos and, for Protoss, you would go straight to Immortals.  They seem to be very effective against Roaches.
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Jacob[fc]
 February 27th, 2010 1:20pm #5Jacob[fc]
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They are but they are heavy on the gas.  I've found that the best combo is about 2-3 sentrys and stalkers.
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Jacob[fc]
 February 27th, 2010 1:45pm #6Jacob[fc]
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Man I think the mutas are a little over powerd.  Nothing can stop them.  We both had Vikings and phoniex's and we still couldn't stop them.
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zoi[nK]
 February 27th, 2010 2:48pm #7zoi[nK]
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Actually, Roaches have gotten less and less effective as people figured them out. Even when I open 10 overpool into queen-roach, close position, by the time I kill the Protoss 3 Zealots and Stalker, his Immortal pops and takes care of the rest. This is possibly the fastest Roach rush that's economically worthwhile.

Keep in mind that this is vs a 1 gate core into robo build, and as soon as he defends your rush, hes going to pop an obs as well, making your burrow move a waste of upgrade.

I've found them to be a bit more useful vs 2 gate into core builds though. The robo is way too late, and you can usually fuck up his mineral line with burrowed roaches for a good amount of time, letting you expand and tech to hydra-speed ling, that should be able to take on his zealot/stalker/immortal push.

Some people even open 1 gate forge (notably Artosis) allowing you to hold your ramp with 2 cannons while you tech to robo/stargate.



Vs Terran, they're even less effective since people have figured out that Maurauders are a hard counter and they're quick to get. I've just started opening bane/ling vs T into Hydra/Muta.
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Pro]ChoseN-
 February 27th, 2010 4:39pm #8Pro]ChoseN-
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Do you guys who have played SC2 think you'll enjoy more than you did SC1?
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Jacob[fc]
 February 27th, 2010 6:06pm #9Jacob[fc]
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From my experience I don't think its really fair to compare both of the games.  At least not for me because I've been playing fastest for over 5+ years and switching over to low money (Al thought its like fastest) its just not the same.  It almost feels as if its a whole different RTS game.
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Nova
 February 27th, 2010 11:12pm #10Nova
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Hrmm, I think that they might actually need to buff roaches. The main problem against Zerg right now for Terran is definitely the mutalisks, not the roaches.
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SoLo.Phallic
 March 1st, 2010 1:30pm #11SoLo.Phallic
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# Pro]ChoseN-
Do you guys who have played SC2 think you'll enjoy more than you did SC1?



I enjoy it more already, especially considering its been long overdue for a new and improved sequel for years. Granted there's no fastest, but I played Low way before I ever played fastest so that doesn't bother me. Some hardcore fastest-only kids might not enjoy it up front becuase its nothing like fastest, but I don't see who wouldn't like it more after they get the hang of it.
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SoLo.Phallic
 March 1st, 2010 1:46pm #12SoLo.Phallic
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Btw why'd they increase reaper build time? THey're almost geting to be worthless as they are. Anyone who scouts them will fucking bash their shit in, especially in 1's. Z has a queen and most of them go roaches anwyays, bash the reapers. Toss always goes quick stalkers, rapes those reapers.
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Nova
 March 1st, 2010 2:52pm #13Nova
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# SoLo.Phallic
Btw why'd they increase reaper build time? THey're almost geting to be worthless as they are. Anyone who scouts them will fucking bash their shit in, especially in 1's. Z has a queen and most of them go roaches anwyays, bash the reapers. Toss always goes quick stalkers, rapes those reapers.


They decreased the barracks build time by 15 seconds and the tech lab build time by 5 seconds, so technically you get your first reaper 10 seconds faster than previously, but after the 3rd reaper they come out a bit slower. :)
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Kefka
 March 1st, 2010 2:57pm #14Kefka
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U'd better watch it kris... last time some1 whined about the game (Ryoji), MeMz GG'fucked them in his shoutout.
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SoLo.Phallic
 March 1st, 2010 3:29pm #15SoLo.Phallic
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# Nova
They decreased the barracks build time by 15 seconds and the tech lab build time by 5 seconds, so technically you get your first reaper 10 seconds faster than previously, but after the 3rd reaper they come out a bit slower. :)


Ah. Have you been able to use them much in 1v1's? The most i can do with them now, is maybe harass them long enough to buy me some tech time... Even not much at that. It seems now when i go reapers, they can prepare for it pretty easily and it ends up almost being a waste of time if they went the proper build.
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Nova
 March 1st, 2010 3:34pm #16Nova
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# SoLo.Phallic
Ah. Have you been able to use them much in 1v1's? The most i can do with them now, is maybe harass them long enough to buy me some tech time... Even not much at that. It seems now when i go reapers, they can prepare for it pretty easily and it ends up almost being a waste of time if they went the proper build.


Honestly it depends on what you scout your opponent doing. If I see a Protoss open with no gas, then I'll go reapers, because it means they are going to try a mass zealot rush.

TvT the reapers work good if someone is trying fast banshee rush.

I never use reapers against Zerg.
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SoLo.Phallic
 March 1st, 2010 3:56pm #17SoLo.Phallic
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Yeah i tried vs z like 2 times, wasnt able to kill more than like 2-3 drones tops.

Vs toss, ill do it in 2's if i see zeal rush, but in 1v1 since i'm picking T almost all the time, I never usually see anyone try to zeal me, so they end up fast stalkering and eat reapers for lunch.
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Nova
 March 1st, 2010 4:14pm #18Nova
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# SoLo.Phallic
Yeah i tried vs z like 2 times, wasnt able to kill more than like 2-3 drones tops.

Vs toss, ill do it in 2's if i see zeal rush, but in 1v1 since i'm picking T almost all the time, I never usually see anyone try to zeal me, so they end up fast stalkering and eat reapers for lunch.


Well, the main thing I can use reapers for (and not mass reapers) is additional scouting for terran. Some maps have hills near narrow choke points, which is awesome for placing a reaper there to watch the enemy come in.

Sometimes its worth the 50 minerals and 50 gas, just to run one through your opponents base to see what they are currently building.
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zoi[nK]
 March 1st, 2010 5:29pm #19zoi[nK]
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Reapers are only useful vs Z if you're opening Maurauder anyway, then you can get 1 or 2 to scout the Z early.

And Kris is crying too much about Roaches. :)
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SoLo.Phallic
 March 1st, 2010 5:38pm #20SoLo.Phallic
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i havent lost to roaches in a 1v1 yet.  and mutas get maimed by rine/ghost.
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